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Racing questionnaire

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Guys,

I developed FRC as a place to have great recreational and competitive 1/32 scale motorsport fun without breaking the bank. We've had a lot of that over the more than ten years of it's existence, however there is now a relatively small core group of regulars who attend events.

In an effort to try to encourage more participation, I'm putting out the questionnaire below to you all for your feedback. Hopefully we can find some areas where we can agree to make changes and in so doing, generate renewed enthusiasm for racing at FRC.

Some of the principles I've set from the beginning are:
  • Keeping it as an informal group, free of charge for everyone instead of going the formal club route which can lead to unwanted problems.
  • Trying to set and maintain classes and rules that relate to real racing over different eras, where basically any slot car can compete fairly and competitively regardless of manufacturer.
  • Ensuring that we all have as much fun and camaraderie as possible, while keeping with the competitive nature of racing.
Please keep these in mind as you submit your responses.

QUESTIONNAIRE:
(Leave your responses as comments below)

Following are our current classes:
  1. Kitbash (KB)
  2. Historic Saloon (HS)
  3. American Pony Car (APC)
  4. Vintage Sports '60-'75 GT (VS6075GT)
  5. Vintage Sports '60-'75 Prototype (VS6075PR)
  6. Rally Car (RC)
  7. BTCC (BTCC)
  8. Slot.It Challenge (SC)
  9. Modified Production (MP)
  10. Restricted GT (RGT)
  11. Restricted LMP (RLMP)
  12. Formula 1 (F1)
Please rate them in the order of your preference using the letter associated with each class. (For example, B,C,D,E,A, etc.)

Wherever possible, please indicate what you like and what you do not like about each class based on the current regulations.

List the specific changes you would like to see for each class.

Regarding our events:
  1. How often should we race?
  2. What day and time (from/to) best suits you?
  3. How many classes should we race at each event?
  4. How many races per class?
Please leave any additional comments and suggestions you may have.

Thanks in advance for your input.

Gordon

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Here are the results of the class preference question for the responses so far:

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Since there are 12 classes, to compute this I assigned 12 points to each person's first choice, going down 1 point for each next position, with the last choice getting 1 point.
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Interesting questionnaire Gordon. Feedback should be quite informative. I'll certainly give my responses soon but tonight I'm helping Jono with kart etc.so early next week.
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My responses:

D E C G B F H I L J K A

Like
A - No-magnet, low speed
B, C, D, E - Era, limited downforce medium speed
F - Type of competition, no-magnet
G - Very similar cars from same manufacturer, limited downforce, limited alterations allowed
H - Similar cars from same manufacturer, alterations require parts from same manufacturer
I - Fast class but with restrictions (especially for 2020)
J, K - Very fast class for lap record setting, simple rules
L - Type of cars, simple rules.

Dislike
A - Not many competitors, races too short, ground clearance should be measured as car will race
B, C - Nothing
D - Era is too wide resulting in very different cars with different dimensions (particularly track width), unrealistic types of cars racing against one another
E - Era is too wide resulting in unrealistic types of cars racing against one another
F - Ground clearance should be measured as car will race
G, H, I, J, K, L - Nothing

Changes for each class:
A - Longer races (20 laps), treat class more seriously (like any other class)
D, E - Narrow the era to 1965-1970
A, F - Measure ground clearance as car will race

Regarding our events:
1 - Every 2-3 weeks
2 - Thursday 7:30pm - 11:00pm
3 - Maximum of three
4 - Two
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Post by obrie »

GFADEBCHLIJK

All of your other answers my own exactly!

as you see my preference is for the slower classes where i think the cars are better matched and driving skill becomes a factor. some of the faster classes are in my mind a demonstration of the engineering not driving, with the car capable of almost flat out the entire way. Who fast ...win! This is where i think BTCC can be a winner for the club. Simple rules - stiff competition - lots of entrants all add up to a great night. Scratch built is difficult to setup at first but a great deal of fun and i suspect if it were given more time. It will develop
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My favourite classes, in order of appearance would be:
A, F, B. C, D, E, G, I, H, J, K, L.
My likes and dislikes for the classes raced are similar to Gordon's and O'Brie's but I would add the following comments:
Class A: I'd like to see the elimination of the 3D printed chassis so the cars would be more in line with those
originally envisaged for this class.
Ground clearance to be measured as per the original 2020 rules.

Class F: Ground clearance to be measured as per the original 2020 rules.
If the above ground clearance rule is not implemented, I'd like the addition of a new rally class for
somewhat less capable cars . Please see my post on 6th February under 'Racing' on this forum on the
topic.

Racing every other week is fine with me but if a week is missed for any reason, we should try to make up for it the following week, ie. we could race two weeks in a row in order to maintain the schedule.

The current day/time is fine with me but I'm flexible and could switch to accomodate the needs of others.

Number of classes per event is fine now.

I'd like to have two races per class in order to get more use (not to mention more enjoyment) out of all of the cars. I don't see this as a problem if we go with the new scrutineering system. which saves a lot of time up front.

Steve
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HI guys its time we get a wooden track. so sorry i may be out of racing at FRC. THANKS.
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Post by Luke »

WOW ..!

For all that was noted above ~ from a few of the regular racers.

I really can’t suggest anything about likes, dislikes etc ~ other than to rate the letter/classes in order of my liking ...
  • Gordon ... D, E, C, G, B, F, H, I, L, J, K & A
  • O’Brie .... G, F, A, D, E, B, C H, L, I, J & K
  • Steve ..... A, F, B. C, D, E, G, I, H, J, K & L
  • Luke ...... J, L, G, I, K, H, F, C, B, D, E & A
  • Ramesh... K, J, I, L, H, G, F, E, D, C, B & A
  • Luke B .... F, K, J, I, L, H, G, E, D, C, B & A
  • Arden ..... L, J, K, I, H, G, C, F, E, D, B & A.
Without a doubt ... a very compelling mixture of lined-up letters.

Luke
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Post by Luke »

Hello Gordon,

A remarkable chart (you came up with) to arrange those 12 FRC racing classes with only a few persons 8-)

I am predicting, a fuller list of persons racing enjoyment ...

The BTCC class will still top the charts :-D

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Luke
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Re: Racing questionnaire

Post by RameshB »

Hi i am able to do the preferences of classes , K,J, I,L,H,G,F,E,D,C,B,A. Thanks
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Post by RameshB »

I would be sending out likes , dislikes and changes as soon as possible.
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