Percentage qualifying rule poll

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Should a 120% qualifying percentage rule be applied?

Poll ended at Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:09 pm

Yes
4
80%
No
0
No votes
Undecided
1
20%
 
Total votes: 5

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Percentage qualifying rule poll

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Guys, if you haven't done so already, please read the following post and all its comments before responding to this poll.

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Based on feedback received, I'm suggesting we try a 120% factor, but this can be adjusted in the future if we feel it necessary.

You have 14 days to vote and you may change your vote as often as necessary during this time.

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Another thought on this... Even if this is voted in, it doesn't have to apply to all events, all classes and all races. We can decide when it applies and when it doesn't, however this should be decided before qualifying starts.
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For the sake of closer racing & tuning cars to be more competitive which takes about half hour max to get a car to that time ...

I went with - YES .. :!:

Even though (with sample below) for me with my cars ~ lap time against pole setter.
  • 1. RGT ......... 2.214 gap (I really didn't make any effort here)
    2. HS ........... 0.799 gap
    3. VS ........... No ready Car
    4. LMP ......... No ready Car
    5. G5SC ....... No ready Car
    6. RC ........... No ready Car
    7. MP ........... No ready Car
    8. GT ........... 0.642 gap
    9. AM .......... 0.623 gap
    10. SC ......... 0.620 gap
    11. F1 ......... 0.538 gap
It will take me about 5 - 6 hours total :)

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After reading all the comments and hearing all the feedback on this topic, both verbally and in writing (including private email to me), I've had to dig deeper into my thoughts and at this point I have decided to vote against my own suggestion that this rule be implemented. Here are my reasons:
  1. We have been scratching our heads for a long time now trying to come up with ways to attract new drivers to FRC, thus far with very limited success. I have got the impression that we have evolved to the point that some potential newcomers may feel that we are too "professional" and serious to get involved with and that the hurdle to be competitive is far too great. As part of this they probably feel we have too many rules to understand and comply with which may take away from the fun they may be hoping to have. Adding yet another rule which, of all things, EXCLUDES those with less experience will only make it even less likely to attract new drivers.
  2. We currently have systems in place for dealing with over-subscribed classes (more than six drivers) such as splitting the class into two or more groups or "cycling" out and in drivers. Although these do not apply where a class has six or fewer drivers, they generally handle slower cars/drivers quite fairly in an inclusive manner rather than excluding them.
  3. Where there are six or fewer cars in a race, we have always managed to drive amongst cars with widely varying lap times quite successfully, as is done in real 1/1 racing.
All in all, I feel the benefits of implementing this 120% rule are slightly on the selfish side and are far outweighed by what we stand to lose. I'm sorry for baiting you all, but I suppose I had to go through the process, including the feedback and soul-searching to arrive at this conclusion.
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Hi Gordon ,i just got back in from the children s home , i had a long day but very fruitful and we were part of a seminar with some pre school teachers on the difference from being good to being great at what you do , i would try to get a video of the differences which will enlighten all readers . always remember when you stop learning you are killing your mind, and you can only teach others as much as you know, growth and development never stops , the only constant in life is change , problems only come about for us to find a solution . You were not at all selfish . I have a lot more to share but it s late bye Ram see you all tomorrow.
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Steups man GG - Could I get back my YES for a next poll .. :?:

Nothing with you but kind of saw that coming for some reason or the other ...

Suppose going through the motions (as you said) was needed for this to happen. Agreed the racing has gotten too "professional" but serious - I will have to disagree because at the end of any event nothing $$$ is gained other than our company together as enthuse slotcar racers. I for one have learnt (with some help of course and thanks) not to take this hobby so serious but yet others have treated it as no laughing matter. I racing so long that I have seen racers come and go - more go than come because guess why ..?

Sure you guessed it - If they not WINNING they not STAYING ent.

Isn't that selling fish I mean SELFISH :!:

Just had to get that off my chest and could have said more but tomorrow will be greater.

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Luke, as indicated on the poll, you can change your vote as many times as you like up to Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:09 pm.
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BTW the poll is still open for voting, so please vote. My deciding to vote against the 120% rule does not mean its closed and I, like all of us, still have the opportunity to change my vote till it closes on Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:09 pm.
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There are arguments both for and against the percentage qualifying rule and i agree that some new comers may find it a daunting task to compete in digital with the added stipulation of qualifying within 120%. I think that for some classes such as the open class and group 5 can have the rule and the other slower classes not have it because most likely a new comer would start with a production class before moving on to the faster classes
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Interesting perspective there Dion.
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