My suggestions for 2015 class changes

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Hi Gordon,
these proposals look ok to me. The lower rpm (23k) motor together with the new magnet position would make the M/Prod cars slower than before and there should now be a real differential in lap times between these and the RGT cars. Re the RGT cars themselves, it would be interesting to see if any of the currently raced cars can magnetically hold on to a length of track upside down !
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steveaca wrote:Re the RGT cars themselves, it would be interesting to see if any of the currently raced cars can magnetically hold on to a length of track upside down !
Here's a pic of my RGT McLaren I just took:

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I believe the same rule should be applied to MP, along with the magnet location suggestion ahead of the middle of the car.
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Just tried the upside-down test on my (actually Jonathan's) Audi R8 and it adheres to the track.
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Well I think that a rule that does not allow cars to hang upside down like this will go a long way towards achieving the objective of slowing our RGT and MP classes. No one can complain that it's hard to set up their cars at home either. The only "equipment" needed is a piece of Scalextric Sport track.
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Hope everyone had a great Christmas. I'm beginning to look towards our 2015 racing once again and would like comments on each of the following class regulation change proposals, along with any suggestions of your own:

Historic Saloon
  • Chassis: Standard for the particular model. Cars with angle-winder chassis or angle-winder pods are prohibited.
  • Motor: Standard for the particular model. Standard motor as fitted by the car manufacturer must not exceed 20,000 RPM, based on manufacturer's specifications.
F1
  • For Scalextric and Carrera F1 cars that come standard with 18K FF motor.
  • Motor: Standard silver-can 18,000 RPM FF motors must be used.
Restricted GT
  • Motor: 25,000 RPM or lower, based on manufacturer's specifications.
  • Magnets: Must be positioned in one of the standard magnet locations for the particular model. Car must not be able to magnetically adhere to standard Scalextric track piece in an upside down position.
Modified Production
  • Digital Chip: Free.
  • Motor: 23,000 RPM or lower, based on manufacturer's specifications.
  • Magnets: Single magnet location ahead of centre of wheelbase with stacking allowed. Car must not be able to magnetically adhere to standard Scalextric track piece in an upside down position.
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Happy Holidays to all :D

The class that I'm noticing mostly atm and would like to comment and make a suggestion on is ... Modified Production

The changes with the Digital Chip (Free), Motor 23K rpm (or lower) and car must not be able to magnetically adhere to a standard track piece in an upside down position - sounds very user friendly for any slotcar setup/builder but believe ... The Magnets: (Single magnet location ahead of center of wheelbase with stacking allowed) could get a bit intricate/entangled with a digital chip.

Here's my suggestion and its somewhat like the RGT class ...

Magnets: Free - except that magnets are up to 2.5mm thick and must be positioned (be it IL or SW) in a standard or any other location ahead of motor for the particular model.

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Hi all,
Re Gordon's suggestions for 2015, I'm in agreement with all and itching for racing to start in 2015.
Re Luke's comments about magnets in MP, I think that the mid-mounted magnet/ chip issue can be resolved, particularly in light of the fact that most cars in this class for 2014 were using F1 chips (due to them running 30k motors). If the F1 chips could have handled the 30k motors, they should be okay with 23k motors.
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Luke, I'm trying to simplify the magnet issue as much as possible. Checking that a car has a x.x mm magnet thickness is not always easy unless the magnet is removed and that is really not practical. MP is not a stock or almost stock class, it's a modified class and I'm sure that us car builders can build a car that meets such a simple regulation. As Steve said, using an F1 retro chip, it's not at all difficult to locate the chip off the centre line of the car, allowing the magnet to be placed ahead of the centre of the wheelbase as suggested.

Remember, we want to differentiate MP from RGT and this magnet location rule can be the main component in so doing.
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GG, I should have been a little more clear on magnet size because all I meant ... is that you can use any magnet thickness, so there's really no need for checking it.

Maybe I should have written the - magnet line - like this to be a little more clear:

Magnets: Free and any thickness except they must be positioned (be it IL or SW chassis) in locations ahead of motor for the particular model.

Plus, agree it is a modified class and sure we car builders can install any chip around magnets ...

Mind you, I'm also trying to help in simplifying this (MP class) magnet point as much as ... I was just thinking of using up the space/area for any magnet setup ahead of the motor be it the IL or SW chassis and not just for - a single magnet location ahead of centre of wheelbase with stacking allowed.

Wouldn't you say in this way (using up the space/area ...) with magnets and for the fact that a car must not magnetically adhere to track piece in an upside down position, it will be easier to spread around magnets rather than stacking them in a fixed position.

Hope I made myself (a little more) understandable here ;) even though I understand what you are trying to do, making the MP class magnet issue simple.

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