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F1 McLarens ready to run

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Worked on my two F1 McLarens over the past few days and they're now up to FRC 2018 specs. The original Scalextric car has been upgraded with a whole different rear end, along with some other subtle enhancements. The F1 prototype which I tested at the final two F1 events last year has had a change from a 21.5K motor to an 18K one to bring it in line with the new rules. I'm also happy to say that they are the first cars of my current racing stable that drop away from the USD block without assistance (a shake), as required from now on.

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Looking good there Gordon. Maybe it's my eyes or the camera angle, but the prototype seems to be a bit larger than the Scaley car.
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They're almost the same size Steve:

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In fact the Prototype is slightly shorter, but a little wider in the "fuselage" area.
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Gordon,

The F1 (Lewis Hamilton) Allslotcar Prototype - compared to the Scalextric model - looking like a comprehensive winning drive and right from the start but what’s truly looking larger ~ is it’s budget ...

It’s a pretty penny indeed but nonetheless (and as usual) another superb slotcar project by you :-)

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Oh ..! I must mention Gordon, how your new F1 version looks very durable and reliable :-)
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Gordon you may remember this colorful picture and look how your model is looking like it’s already in the bunch :D

When I came across this exciting pic (again) under FRC Racing - which you posted so long ago of 6 ALLSLOTCAR F1 model cars ... Lots of ideas/thoughts keep crossing my mind and kind of remembered guys suggesting plus you being the point-man for an estimated budget setting up one of these open-wheel slotcars.
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Long story short and for all you have accomplished - suppose (and only saying if) its a budget of $900US for 6 cars ...

How about your FRC racing regulars (be it 5, 6 or even 7 guys) coming together with their finances of $150US and maybe you purchasing and setting up the amount of cars (per driver) with corresponding components to hopefully have a full grid of F1 racing cars .. :?:

In this way - I believe the overall (2+ years) project could get off the ground this year and probably progress from there ... with each driver (per car) for the already set of official FRC F1 racing Regs.

Hopefully you and others will agree with this easy to understand (somewhat of an IROC) revised suggestion.

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Luke, the way the F1 rules are set up for 2018, the existing Scalextric F1 cars can be made very competitive with minor (inexpensive) changes. In fact I'm willing to bet that my upgraded Scalextric McLaren is going to be quicker than the Allsoltcar-bodied one, at least initially. Even after I spend more development time on the latter, it probably will only be as competitive as the former (hopefully).

Don't underestimate the potential of the Scalextric F1s with what the new rules allow. That's the beauty of the new rules. You get to innovate and improve and this doesn't mean having to replace everything with something new. You can build on the cars you already have. I'm looking forward to seeing the different configurations of F1 cars this year. Quite the opposite of IROC actually, where all the cars are set up identically. It should be much more like real F1.
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A-okay Gordon and as normal very nicely explained but from your experiences setting up and testing one of these Allslotcar models ...

Quite sure you have learned much about ... and being the man at point (leader) with this GP slotcar venture.

Is it okay for you to produce a list of parts/components that’s required setting up one of these models ..? It doesn’t have to be the exact parts you chose for your “McLaren” livery but guidelines with what items and where to get them.

Let’s say (by chance) I plan on getting one of these models to compete at FRC ... It sure would help to save the hassle with online shopping and for all you know it could be the ~ jumpstart ~ setting up my slot-cars again :-)

Also how a number of discussions for a new “formula one” option and remember as far back (News: October 2012) when you first posted a F1 “IROC” Class topic on the forum ... All in all and based on our open wheel racing experiences (and since then) we were trying to settle the easy damages to Scalextric F1 model cars ...

Btw - thanks for your reply and if you wondered ...

I’m playing mass in a band called “297” ..!

In other words, I’m staying home but may go for a stroll on the Avenue Carnival Tuesday ;-)

Have a great weekend,

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Hello Gordon and for all your ASC/GP car development ...

How does this checklist look in saving time for (maybe) more than one person ordering a Allslotcar model ..? In relation for you to purchase (if possible) all items at once for racing the F1 class at FRC ...

I used some time and came up with this comprehensive list of components after viewing the FRC 2018 rules ...
  • • Chassis
    • Body
    • SSD Digital Chip
    • Motor 18K rpm
    • Crown Gear
    • Pinion Gear
    • Motor Pod
    • Magnet
    • Front Wheels
    • Rear Wheels
    • Axles
    • Bearings
    • Front Tyres
    • Rear Tyres
    • Guide Flag
You will remember how you did something just like this with your very first core of FRC drivers and hindsight would have it - isn’t life one big circle :-)

Your new core of FRC drives (depending) could now spend quality time developing their own ALLSLOTCAR model (to be as competitive as possible) with the new F1 rules.

On a separate note - not going for a stroll on the Avenue again ... Instead got invited for lunch today.

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In response to Luke's request here are the main components needed to put together a non-Scalextric F1 car to meet 2018 regs:

Some body options:
1. All Slot Car body (painted and decaled) £35
https://www.pendleslotracing.co.uk/bran ... t-car.html
2. Alternatively, you may be able to use your Scalextric F1 car's body with a pod designed for an FF motor (see "Motor pod options" below).

Some chassis options:
1. All Slot Car chassis Formula GP Evo
https://www.pendleslotracing.co.uk/all- ... s-evo.html
This chassis does not use a Slot.It-compatible pod.
2. SVQ Slot chassis - steel and carbon (like mine) €18
http://www.svq-slot.es/velocidad/390-ch ... -1-f1.html
3. SVQ Slot chassis - carbon only €20
http://www.svq-slot.es/velocidad/389-ch ... -1-f1.html
4. MB Slot MB13500 1/32 Chassis Kit - FR4 (fiberglass) $14.29
http://www.professormotor.com/product-p/mb13500.htm

Motor pod options:
Any Slot.It-compatible pod (may need slight modifications). Olifer (Shapeways) has a few adjustable options, including for an FF motor, which may work with Scalextric F1 bodies.

Gear options:
Slot.It or similar removable gears will allow changing ratios as you tune your F1 car.

Wheel and tyre options:
The original F1 wheels and whatever tyres you use can work, however it will be better to use F1-size set-screw wheels and suitably-sized silicone, rubber or urethane tyres.

Digital chip:
You'll most likely have to use Scalextric F1-size chip, unless you can get a larger one to fit the body.

Other parts can come from almost any manufacturer or existing slot car, including axles, bearings, guide flag, pinion and magnet(s).
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