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Checking your cars for the 2015 "upside down" rule

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:54 pm
by gordon
Guys,

To ensure that you check your MP and RGT cars correctly for the new "upside down" 2015 rule, here's what you need to do:
  1. To perform the test, we'll be using the same half-track section that is used for the 45° test. This track section is reinforced by using three strips of wood glued to the bottom of the track to prevent it from flexing, even under the stress of a magnet-equipped car. I suggest that you do something similar with the track section you plan to use for checking your own cars. Remember that it must be Scalextric Sport track.
  2. To check a car, first place it in the slot on the track section right side up and ensure that the car is centered along the track rails.
  3. Next, while holding the car in place, flip the track section upside down at eye level and ensure that it is horizontal.
  4. Finally, release your hold on the car (but keep your hand ready to catch it). If the car sticks to the track, you need to decrease the downforce.
Once your cars don't stick to the track, they have passed this requirement.

Gordon

Re: Checking your cars for the 2015 "upside down" rule

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:38 pm
by Luke
GG,

These guidelines with the new "upside down" 2015 rule - sounds very useful/helpful for any (johnny-come-lately) newcomer and far less for any of the (red carpet) regular guys.

Ever since I have been building/testing my slot cars for any amount of down force in this way - I have always been using this track section listed below.
  • Scalextric Sport Track - C7016 Half Straight 175mm (single lane) @ $3.25 US each
Note - I don't believe there's a meter for this sort of reading - so its all done Free Hand ...

Now mind you - this track piece isn't so flexible at all. Suppose its because its half the size - compared to this track section listed below ...
  • Scalextric Sport Track - C8207 Half Straight 175mm (double lane) @ $5.50 US each
You mentioned that this track piece needs to be supported and its also used for the 45° test in Rally Car class.

That being said, I also remember Arden making a point that a gearing ratio (set-up) can hold back a slotcar @ 45° which is still left to be seen ent Arden :)

Anyway, I mentioned/wrote all this because I believe a slotcar could cling long enough (yet not be much) to a track piece USD more than another ... slotcar.

Sure you know this phrase "the devil's in the details" which stands for a word of caution about minding the details.

Suggestion:

Here's a slight change in blue with your number 4 point ...
  • 4. Finally, release your hold on the car (but keep your hand ready to catch it). If the car sticks to the track after a slight shake of the wrist, you need to decrease the downforce.
What you think about this adjustment ..?

Luke.

Re: Checking your cars for the 2015 "upside down" rule

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:45 am
by gordon
This suggestion sounds reasonable Luke. Of course, "the devil is in the details" can also apply to the phrase "slight shake" :D

I say we see how it pans out next week with and without the "slight shake" applied and then see what the consensus of the drivers is.

Re: Checking your cars for the 2015 "upside down" rule

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:34 pm
by RameshB
Guys i just love reading some of this stuff, because its such clean harmless fun , you have really brought a smile to my Wed, afternoon, define A SLIGHT SHAKE , is it horizontal or vertical or both together or one alone ,i just cant explain how much is slight lets take peppersauce for eg every doubles man slight varies, lets take shake for eg carnival ,shake differs according to the song or alcohol level ,Thanks Luke T you have made my day. i must conclude those two words cannot be measured , LAUGH OUT LOUD . bye Ramesh

Re: Checking your cars for the 2015 "upside down" rule

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:22 pm
by gordon
LOL! Hilarious! You have me laughing here Ram! :lol:

Re: Checking your cars for the 2015 "upside down" rule

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:50 pm
by steveaca
Maybe FRC could invest in a portable Richter meter and the shake could be limited to , say 6 (as applied by the driver of the car), with an allowance of say
+ or - 7%.

Re: Checking your cars for the 2015 "upside down" rule

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:57 pm
by Luke
WOW!

Imagine all this start with a slight shake ... wonder if I had suggested much shaking - what would have happen then there boy ..?

Nonetheless - I believe some people just like and know how to go out their way being difficult but so be it.

Hope I don't need to define "so be it" because its easy and no one or FRC or both will need to invest in a dictionary.

So sorry to say - just telling it like it is because some people just like Plain Talk - Bad Manners ent ...

End Of Discussion or Suggestion.

LOUD & CLEAR ~ I MEAN 100% LOL.

Luke T.

Re: Checking your cars for the 2015 "upside down" rule

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:29 am
by RameshB
Hi Luke T , i am sorry for upsetting you in any way , i meant no disrespect , it was never my intent to offend you, , please accept my apology. bye Ramesh

Re: Checking your cars for the 2015 "upside down" rule

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:36 pm
by Luke
Well Ramesh,

I must thank you (here) for your apology but must let you know, after all was said and done ... I gave it a little more thought early in the A.M - that you may have been having a rough day and my suggestion could have ticked you off or tipped your scale for whatever reason. Nonetheless - it did sound like you got up-set with my "slight shake" suggestion but know this is not like you because its not what to say but how you say it - which I know you will support.

Now mind you - if your reply was done by another person (lets just say - I may not be fond of) I would have not replied the way I did or not at all and just move on because I knew what I meant by the slight shake ...

I'm sorry too and in other words - We Cool Right :)

BTW - midday today I saw Steve getting into his car on the Avenue and came close enough to say hello plus ask if he have a Richter scale in the car by chance hehe.

Steve - sorry but just had to put that part in because you should have seen the expression on your face - like what's that all about again and then remembered :D

Don't worry okay - we cool too.

Ram, I'll finish off with this line: Have you ever heard, that in a sense ~ forgiveness is a gift I give myself.

Luke T.

Re: Checking your cars for the 2015 "upside down" rule

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:34 pm
by RameshB
I am cool on it , thanks for your reply, when i see you next thur we will shake on it , i just got back from racing at tscc , it was lots of fun , one day i would like to see the north boys come down.Thanks Gordon for sending out the invites, see you guys next wk bye Ramesh