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Racing this Thursday 11th September

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:09 am
by gordon
Hi Guys,

FRC will be open for practice, testing and racing from 7:30 PM this Thursday (11th September) for our new Group B classes, Historic Saloon - 3 races @ 25 laps, Vintage Sports - 3 races @ 25 laps, Group 5 Sports Cars - 3 races @ 25 laps. For those of you without a car set up specifically for G5SC, we will be allowing any VS car to run in G5SC provided that it retains the legal VS motor and complies with the 200gm downforce rule. To comply with the latter may just require installing slightly taller rear tyres, so bring along any extra tyres you may have that will fit. Remember that our events now start no later than 8:30PM sharp. Here's the schedule:
  • Free practice and testing up to 8:30 PM
  • 8:30 PM SHARP - Qualifying followed by racing. Drivers not ready when called to grid will be replaced by any standby drivers who are ready.
  • Winning cars will be checked for compliance with the regulations after the last race for each class (excluding IROC classes)
  • After racing - Packing up and liming/old talk (but not too late!).
You can see all the class regulations here and the general racing regulations here.

Here are the specific Historic Saloon, Vintage Sports and Group 5 Sports Car class regs (blue text indicates any changes for 2014):

Historic Saloon (HS)
For unmodified slot models of cars based on production saloon/sedan and road going sports cars from the 1960s and 1970s - see Eligable Cars below.
  • Body: See Eligable Cars below. Body must comply with General item 2. Windows may not be tinted - interior must be visible.
  • Chassis: Standard for the particular model.
  • Minimum Ground Clearance: 1.0 mm / 0.040".
  • Interior: Full interior as standard for the particular model, however this may be altered if necessary, but only to the extent required to install digital chip. Must comply with General item 3.
  • Digital Chip: Scalextric brand only.
  • Motor: Standard for the particular model.
  • Gearing: Standard for the particular model.
  • Motor Pod (where applicable): Standard for the particular model.
  • Magnets: Standard for the particular model.
  • Wheels: Standard for the particular model.
  • Axles: Standard for the particular model.
  • Tyres: Free but must fit standard wheels.
  • Guide Flag: Standard for the particular model.
  • Eligible cars:
    • Scalextric 1960s/70s Ford Escorts and Cortinas
    • Scalextric BMC Minis
    • Scalextric Holden L34 Torana
    • Fly Alfa Romeo Giulia
    • Revell Lotus Cortina
    • Revell Trabant 601S
    • Revell NSU TT
    • Revell Simca 1000
    • Revell Jaguar E-Type
    • Revell Mustang GT350
    • Revell BMW 320 from the 70s
    • Scalextric MGB
    • Pioneer MGB
    • Pioneer Mustangs from the '60s and '70s
    • SCX Fiat 131 Abarth
    • SRC Ford Capri
    Registered scratch-built cars (Car / Owner):
    • Triumph TR4A / Gordon
    The list will be expanded if and when other eligible models appear.
Vintage Sports (VS)
For unmodified slot models of racing sports and prototype cars from the 1960s - see Eligable Cars below.
  • Body: See Eligable Cars below. Body must comply with General item 2. Windows may not be tinted - interior must be visible.
  • Chassis: Standard for the particular model.
  • Minimum Ground Clearance: 1.0 mm / 0.040".
  • Interior: Full interior as standard for the particular model, however this may be altered if necessary, but only to the extent required to install digital chip. Must comply with General item 3.
  • Digital Chip: Scalextric brand only.
  • Motor: Standard for the particular model.
  • Gearing: Motor and axle gears may be changed.
  • Motor Pod (where applicable): Standard for the particular model.
  • Magnets: Standard for the particular model. In the case of MRRC "Sebring" chassis cars, up to two standard magnets in the standard magnet locations may be used.
  • Wheels: Standard for the particular model.
  • Axles: Standard for the particular model.
  • Tyres: Free but must fit standard wheels.
  • Guide Flag: Standard for the particular model.
  • Eligible cars:
    • Alfa Romeo TZ2
    • Chaparral 2
    • Chaparral 2A
    • Chaparral 2E
    • Chaparral 2F
    • Cheetah
    • Cobra
    • Cobra Daytona
    • Cooper-Ford
    • Corvette Grand Sport
    • Corvette L88
    • Ferrari 250 GTO
    • Ferrari 250 LM 1966
    • Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa
    • Ferrari 275P
    • Ferrari 330 P4
    • Ford GT Mk IV
    • Ford GT40
    • Ford P68
    • Jaguar E-Type
    • King Cobra
    • Lola T70
    • McLaren M6A (this is technically a Can-Am car but was built and raced during the appropriate period for this class)
    • Porsche 904
    • Porsche 906
    • Porsche 907
    • Porsche 908/2, 1969
    • Porsche 910
    • Porsche Carrera 6
    The list will be expanded if and when other eligible models appear.
Group 5 Sports Cars (1970-1975)
For cars classified by the FIA as Group 5 Sports Cars between 1970 and 1975.
  • Body: Group 5 Sports Cars (1970-1975) only. See Eligable Cars below. Body must comply with General item 2. Windows may not be tinted - interior must be visible.
  • Chassis: Original chassis for the particular model, but may be modified.
  • Minimum Ground Clearance: 1.0 mm / 0.040".
  • Interior: Full interior as standard for the particular model, however this may be altered if necessary, but only to the extent required to install digital chip. Must comply with General item 3.
  • Digital Chip: Free.
  • Motor: 26,000 RPM or lower, based on manufacturer's specifications.
  • Gearing: Free.
  • Motor Pod (where applicable): Free.
  • Magnets: Maximum Magnet Marshal downforce of 200 gms (107% = 214 gms). This is currently under review.
  • Wheels: Free.
  • Axles: Free.
  • Tyres: Free.
  • Guide Flag: Free.
  • Eligible cars:
    • Alfa Romeo 33/3
    • Alfa Romeo 33TT12
    • Ferrari 312P
    • Ferrari 512
    • Chevron B19
    • Chevron B21
    • Lola T70 Mk III
    • Mirage GR8
    • Matra MS670
    • Porsche 908LH
    • Porsche 917
    • Porsche 917LH
    • McLaren M8D (this is technically a Can-Am car but was built and raced during the appropriate period for this class)
    The list will be expanded if and when other eligible models appear.
Don't forget to bring along some refreshments.

Ice Brigade: Luke B.

Reality Checks

Historic Saloon:
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Vintage Sports:
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Group 5 Sports Cars:
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See you on the circuit...
Gordon

Re: Racing this Thursday 11th September

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:25 pm
by steveaca
Will be there for sure. Hopefully we'll see the Cobra Daytona and/or GT40 of Killer-B on the circuit.
Nice 'reality check' photos !
Steve

Re: Racing this Thursday 11th September

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:39 am
by RameshB
Hi guys, sweet pics i love the battle into turn 1 with the gt cortinas and the mustang, i know the cortina will be 1600 push rod but what will the mustang cc be? some old school racing trivia , see you tomorrow.

Re: Racing this Thursday 11th September

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:04 pm
by Luke
Nice looking pics indeed but the Ferrari (thinking it is - in middle shot) hitting that apex did it for me because just looking at that right rear wheel ~ seeing lots of kinetic energy ;)

I have a question though GG ... and feel it needs an answer :D

This morning I thought about the VS cars racing in the G5SC class ...

Interestingly enough, as cool as its sounding and making it happen this Thursday - thinking now that the G5SC cars could race in the VS class too .. :?:

Luke

Re: Racing this Thursday 11th September

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:30 pm
by gordon
RameshB wrote:Hi guys, sweet pics i love the battle into turn 1 with the gt cortinas and the mustang, i know the cortina will be 1600 push rod but what will the mustang cc be? some old school racing trivia , see you tomorrow.
Ram, would that be a 289 V8?

Re: Racing this Thursday 11th September

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:49 pm
by gordon
Luke wrote:Nice looking pics indeed but the Ferrari (thinking it is - in middle shot) hitting that apex did it for me because just looking at that right rear wheel ~ seeing lots of kinetic energy ;)
Luke, that would be a Porsche Carrera 6 (or Porsche 906).
Luke wrote:I have a question though GG ... and feel it needs an answer :D

This morning I thought about the VS cars racing in the G5SC class ...

Interestingly enough, as cool as its sounding and making it happen this Thursday - thinking now that the G5SC cars could race in the VS class too .. :?:

Luke
Well that would not be accurate historically. During the '60s, the G5SC cars did not exist, whereas, as I already explained, in the early years of the real G5SC, several '60s cars competed with them. As an example of '60s cars racing in G5SC, check out the cars that raced at the 1970 Daytona 24 hrs (look at the non-finishers too):

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970_24_Hours_of_Daytona

There's even a Porsche 906 there.

Gordon

Re: Racing this Thursday 11th September

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:00 pm
by Luke
GG - Oh shocks man ! :">

See how I could have lost money ... I wasn't to sure what type car it was but suppose I outguessed myself because of that Shell logo & somehow the back looks (somewhat) like a 250 GTO and to the middle of the car like a Ferrari P4 ... Should have picked up on those same kinetic energy looking rims though - It was a giveaway because I strongly believe Ferrari don't use those type of steel rims on their cars. At least from photos I have seen of them.

Don't want to be wrong again here but wondering now what type of car is in the 3rd. pic ..? What I could say for sure though - about that car in 3rd. pic - is those wide rear tyres, looking just like the ones I have on my - G5SC Ferrari 512 model :)

Would you believe with that G5 in VS class question ... I worked out the answer during the day (while in traffic) just as you wrote here, of course not in such detail (thanks all the same) but realized the 60s cars met the 70s cars. It couldn't be the 70s met the 60s ~ correct :roll: 8-)

Anyway must let you know - got my cars (1 HS - 2 VS & 1 G5) ready this evening and not for tomorrow evening instead, like how I normally rush home and do ...

God willing - see you & others tomorrow.

Luke

Re: Racing this Thursday 11th September

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:02 am
by gordon
That's an Alfa Romeo T33/3 Spider:

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/2290 ... pider.html

Glad you got your cars ready. I myself worked on 12 cars over the past week to prepare for today :)

Gordon

Re: Racing this Thursday 11th September

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:27 pm
by steveaca
Gordon, would those 12 cars be 4 per class ? Can't wait to see what you have in store !!

Re: Racing this Thursday 11th September

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:37 pm
by gordon
steveaca wrote:Gordon, would those 12 cars be 4 per class ? Can't wait to see what you have in store !!
Historic Saloon - 4 cars - Ford Escort, Ford Cortina, Ford Capri, Triumph TR4A
Vintage Sports - 6 cars - Ford GT40, Lola T-70, Cobra x 2 (not Daytona), Ferrari 330 P4, Ferrari 275P
Group 5 Sports Cars - 2 cars - Alfa Romeo 33/3, Ferrari 312PB