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FRC Racing Time Analysis

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:29 pm
by gordon
Hi Guys,

The following graphic shows the time spent in actual competition (racing/rallying) by class and class grouping:

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The original document is a spreadsheet where I can change values in the two coloured columns. The first table is sorted by total race time (lowest to highest), the second to match our current class groupings. In this graphic I've set the number of laps to give a total competition time of 41-51 minutes for each class grouping. Of course we can adjust these as needed to produce different results by simply changing the number of laps and races.

Let me know your thoughts...
Gordon

Re: FRC Racing Time Analysis

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:53 am
by Luke
This is a very informative presentation Gordon - but I just cant seem to figure out what is Average Lap Time (rounded up)...

Re: FRC Racing Time Analysis

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:46 am
by gordon
Luke, it really should read "Last Event Fastest Qualifying Lap Time (rounded up)". This is the fastest time recorded in qualifying at our last event for this class, rounded up to the nearest second. For example, if the fastest Q-time for a class was 6.2 sec, it is rounded up to the next integer, 7 sec.

The idea with this whole exercise is to set the number of laps and races for each class grouping so that they total roughly the same amount of time (in this case 41-51 minutes of actual racing).

I'd like everyone's feedback on whether the laps/races should be as shown in the graphic or changed in some way (increased or decreased) with completing the event in a timely manner being part of the objective. I actually have an extended version of the spreadsheet that accounts for time spent doing other things, including qualifying, setting IDs, rest breaks, etc.

Gordon

Re: FRC Racing Time Analysis

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:32 am
by steveaca
Hi Gordon,
I like the idea of the current 5 races per class. If we keep this, I think that the no. of laps per race could be reduced as we did quite effectively with the Ferraris at the last event. My suggestion would be as follows:
25 lap races-all stock and 'IROC' classes.
30 lap races-restricted modification classes (RGT, MP, G5)
40 lap races-AM,GT,LMP.
Rally-leave as is.
Steve

Re: FRC Racing Time Analysis

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:43 am
by Luke
WOW you not easy GG :!:

Imagine you said I am a real statistician man (sometime ago) but I see now, you are the true statistician man...

Well done with this idea & will get back to you later with my thoughts and get some brainstorming done.

Its entertaining to notice how there's 6 racing groups and 6 average qualifying times of 5,6,7,8,9 & 10 seconds per lap 8-)

Luke

Re: FRC Racing Time Analysis

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:21 pm
by Luke
Steve - your suggestion sounding great...

Lets see how/what number it gives with total competition times.

Luke

Re: FRC Racing Time Analysis

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:14 pm
by gordon
steveaca wrote:Hi Gordon,
I like the idea of the current 5 races per class. If we keep this, I think that the no. of laps per race could be reduced as we did quite effectively with the Ferraris at the last event. My suggestion would be as follows:
25 lap races-all stock and 'IROC' classes.
30 lap races-restricted modification classes (RGT, MP, G5)
40 lap races-AM,GT,LMP.
Rally-leave as is.
Steve
Steve,

Here's what the figures look like with your suggestion:

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This is using the extended version of the spreadsheet, but for the purpose of your suggestion, ignore everything to the right of "Tot Racing Time". Note the time differences. Total racing time for a fast class like F1 is 12.5 minutes; for the slow MC cars its 22.5 minutes. It really needs some more tweaking.

Gordon

Re: FRC Racing Time Analysis

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:30 pm
by gordon
OK, how about this:

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I've set the laps at 20, 25, 30, 35 and 40 based on the Avg Lap Time and No of Races so that the Tot Racing Times are as close to each other as possible (16.2 min to 18 min) without using ridiculous laps like 21, 28, etc. I've left the RC class as it is because I think we all agree that its good to go.

Re: FRC Racing Time Analysis

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:56 am
by Luke
Hey GG - If you noticed the time posted, dont think I am playing lagahoo or werewolf here :D

Just for the record, I am home alone atm and the downstairs is under some renovations - a new doorway and 2 window openings just has a sheet of ply blocking them for now. I'm sure you got picture, so I am kind of a G4S security with a hot cup of tea ;)

Back to the topic... I noticed the two "Total Elapsed Time" sections didnt change at all, except for HS, VS & G5SC with 2.3/2.4 hrs.

Anyway, we could go on & on with the differences...

Could you work/try out this suggestion:

MC - 20 laps
FTC - 25 laps
PC - 25 laps
LS - 30 laps

HS,VS & G5SC - 25 laps each

RC - No Change

RGT & SC - 30 laps

F1 - 25 laps

AM, GT & LMP - No Change

You have already done (to the top) with/for event MC,RGT & SC - 20x30x30 laps...

I think this is perfect & couldnt get any better for a good time frame of racing enjoyment.

Luke

Re: FRC Racing Time Analysis

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:32 am
by Luke
GG - See you have this in class groupings...

D. Mini Challenge - 6 races @ 20 laps, Restricted GT - 5 races @ 25 laps, Slot.It Challenge - 5 races @ 25 laps

Could you examine this instead of 20x30x30 as we already know it :)

House safe so me going and get ah 2 hours :|

Luke