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Track width vs weight in the Vintage Sports class

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:08 pm
by gordon
Guys, this is the chart I was referring to at last night's event at FRC. The thought was to see if the advantage gained by having a wider track (measured from outer edges of the contact patch of the tyres) could be offset for the narrower cars by reducing their minimum weight. Here's the chart:

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I've broken it into three groups, denoted by the green, yellow and orange colours. The first column in the top chart is the widest track width on the car (front or rear), the second is the car minimum weight for the class, the third column is the weight difference from the previous group and the fourth column is a factor based on the weight divided by the track width. You'll see that the factors are all basically the same, which means that the weight to track width ratio is maintained for all values.

I then simplified everything above by summarising it into the three levels at the bottom of the graphic. In the case of GT, these are
  1. Track widths over 56mm - cars must weigh at least 90gm
  2. Track widths51mm to 56mm - cars must weigh at least 80gm
  3. Track widthsunder 51mm - cars must weigh at least 70gm.
The Prototype category follows a similar pattern but with 77gm as the highest minimum weight.

The idea seemed good in theory, however I'm still not sure if it will make a significant enough difference to justify the further complication in the regs. So far, I've set up the Ferrari 275P which I raced in the Vintage Sports Prototype class at the previous event by reducing its weight based in its 51mm rear track. The weight came down from 77.9gm to 65.3gm (12.9gm) and I can even take it down to the chart's allowed figure of 57gm with lighter components. I ran some laps with this lighter weight last night and found the car to be definitely more lively, although I could not equal the time I had set with it in qualifying at the last event.

So, nothing conclusive as yet. I still have some more testing to do.

Re: Track width vs weight in the Vintage Sports class

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:45 am
by steveaca
Very interesting Gordon.
Your results with the Ferrari are surprising, with a 12.9 g weight reduction (and assuming no other changes) resulting in a slower lap time. Maybe that result is a consequence of the track being more lively than on the night the car was raced and as a result the car may have been more difficult to handle.
I think a bit more experimenting is called for, with back-to-back comparisons being made to cars in various configurations to really guage the effect on performance.

Re: Track width vs weight in the Vintage Sports class

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:30 pm
by gordon
Steve, I agree with you. We need to have everything else consistent. The only changes should be on the car. I can always add back the weight and do some laps, then remove it and test again, all in the same track session.

Re: Track width vs weight in the Vintage Sports class

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:24 pm
by obrie
Agreed! It looks good but let us experiment a bit first before making a decision.